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Mark Leibovich goes inside the NFL in Big Game

As the chief national correspondent for The New York Times Magazine, Mark Leibovich typically writes about nonsense in and around Washington, D.C. Previously, he dissected the vulgarities running rampant in the business of government for his book This Town. In his latest book, Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times, Leibovich turns his attention to another world that seems to revel in its repugnance, professional football.

Mark and I discuss:

  • The wit and charisma of commissioner Roger Goodell;

  • The dichotomy between new money and old money in team ownership;

  • The league’s never-ending drama away off the field;

  • Sycophancy of the NFL media;

  • And more.